You can even see the shadow of her han on her face. Note the shadow across her face , covering her eyes: that is from her hand. Hi Jim, I appreciate your comments but please lay off the language of calling people fools. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. For the most part, foreigners are just caught in the middle. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. They earn money through drug trafficking, often theft and sometimes by extorting businesses. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? It has to be her arm and hand that are blocking that part of her shirt. I suspect some are aware of these things but want to cover it up. Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? Why did he leave them? Around 2 oclock. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. Or whoever deleted the photos may have overlooked to delete this one as they could have done it in a hurry as well. Yes, you are correct that numerous communities do work hard to bring criminals to justice. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. It was the last time anyone saw the women alive. Very interesting and completely changed my mind. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Totally agree, Alexis. When browsing the images that were on Lisanne Froons phone, I also noticed that a lot of other websites cropped off the top of this particular photo of Kris Kremers. Gang initiation rights are unknown these small gangs dont have an official policy as you might see with the larger gangs its usually just do as we say and well protect you. scary A well-worn path. The indigenous locals that were committing the sacrifices were influenced by a villager that had recently travelled abroad and returned to his village with extremist Christian views. But, then again this whole case is pretty unbelievable whether you believe they did or didnt meet foul play. ): https://ibb.co/nqy80hS Like jaguar? It seems likely it was tribal. At first glance I just thought she was looking for something. They talk as if it would be difficult to branch off the trail, but maybe they did not notice other paths that could have been taken? Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. I think this has been added to hide the fact that Kris was not wearing boots, as this was a shot of her from somewhere else and superimposed on the jungle scene. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. This is an excellent analysis. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. Thanks and cheers. Likelihood the predator will strike again: 99.9% unless predator has died. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. ABC News had previously reached out to the U.S. Embassy in Panama for comment but did not receive a response. However, calling emergency services doesnt require unlocking the phone, meaning a third party had to be involved. I just find it strange that no video diary or fotos of each other made after 508. The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. Yes, exactly. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. actually name names. Its very interesting that the dog is not clearly visible in any of the pictures. Theres no denying that the face looks skewed and mask like. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. They may not have even know what they were doing, taking pictures, if they werent familiar with technology, and tossed the phone again at some point for the girls to grab to attempt the emergency calls and taken it back at some point after. To begin with his suggests either they walked into dense dark forest so there was no foto ops or it stopped being fun and started to become serious so somewhere not far beyond that stream did they met a fateful fork in the path which took them towards oblivion. I would like to know their movements precisely from arriving in Boquete. The overriding input is human. Shes clearly holding a bottle of water in her left hand in front of her. When a bad break happens at ankle level and the body decomposes and gets scavenged once the flesh and muscle is gone the foot and shoe are separated from the rest of the leg. This may explain why the taxi driver and the two young men died so soon after this incident. In either case, maybe the rucksack was looted then later planted to avoid criminal implication. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. Its disturbing. Thanks for pointing this out. My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? It only makes the image look more detailed, but the detail is artificial and can be very misleading. There are so many possibilities and we will probably never really know. She turns to talk Lisanna Oy vey I didnt catch this before, but seeing it now it sort of made my eyes water a bit. Aside from the various graffiti markings, the one thing that looks potentially creepy is the circular, hanging object. Trust me, I prefer to take the easiest explanation too. Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? As you say, it might be better if you were able to lay out the photos and see how they seem to fit together. & the way the local police handled it seems so botched making it stranger, & why keep some pictures hidden from the public still, especially if the case is closed now? I wanted to share this article from a big newspaper in Panama. In truth, the fact that theres no evidence that the dog was with them leads a person to believe that perhaps someone could have fabricated the fact that the dog was with them. Agreed the thing on the tree trunk looks man made but even if it is it is not sinister. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. She is clearly shielding her eyes from the sun by holding her right arm up. Why not just kill them and leave it be? Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. Nothing more sinister than that. Its texture and color seemingly resembles the red bag tied to the SOS stick on the rock later on, imo. The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. So easily noticeable. It does not make sense to me. Ella divide en dos la historia: las fotos anteriores a la 506 son de alegra, la foto 506 es de pnico y la 507 y 508 de preocupacin. Thanks in advance! This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. Emergency. Totally agree. I believe one fell. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. To this day, the disappearance and tragic deaths of Kris and Lisanne remains a harrowing mystery. For forensic work, any such upsampling is worthless. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. Someone watched them swimming. I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. His . Packed up the bag, left it, and tried to walk out. More info here. El despus, es pnico y preocupacin. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. Wonder if this case has any similarities? Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. I dont know if this photo is before or after a photo where Kris appears to have mud on her legs and on her arm. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. Incredible work and interest- level regarding the fate of these human spirits. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. The theories go from accident to a crime to a combination of both. Water bottle photo: And the black mark on her face. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. The area behind Kris is quite shadowed, but this seems to me to be more likely dense foliage than a cave. Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. The hand painted insignia looks more like a face to me.. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. Ive written about dozens of stories involving incompetence of law enforcement in disappearance cases. It appears to me that Kris has her right arm to her right temple and you can see part of her left elbow. Just behind her tied hand area. Maybe its just pareidolia, but i think its a manmade object. It was taken on the Continental Divide exactly 14 minutes and 12 seconds after their photos at the Mirador. The gangs in Panama are much smaller, usually consisting of between 5 and 30 people. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. On the other hand, its more dangerous and risky. Lisanne or Kriss hair and head 4. the dried short (Kriss) 5. both fell but their belongings were intact, no cracks in the phone? How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. If a picture is deleted from a camera, its still possible to retrieve it. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. The mystery remains unsolved to this day, and there is still little certainty around the tragic deaths of the two Dutch students. Call us in Washington, D.C. at 1-888-407-4747 (toll-free in the United States and Canada) or 1-202-501-4444 (from all other countries) from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays). They could have been a target early on. Thank you, and keep up the good work. 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Do mobile phones store the number entered? I agree. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. The phones showed that just hours after the beginning of their hike, someone dialed 112 and then 911. A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. I think she is pointing, but at something else in another location. Yessss!! While I was reading over the story again, I decided to review their photos one more time. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. Happy reading! One thing is for sure, I will never travel to Panama. There have been several mass graves uncovered there in the last year alone. Instead, they think What words can I say to make my local population feel better? After all, locals elect these same authorities. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. And why? Im starting to think the girls were lured to Panama by some kind of human trafficking organization that might even be run out of the Netherlands. And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. Is it possible that Kris and Lisanne reached this field with fencing (past the second stream crossing) and mistook this place to be a different entry to the farm areas which are closer to the trail head ? That would account for a canopy structure being built there. Vittorio Caruso. Can you provide more information about photos of the girls being in bad shape? Hi, do you know when and where this book will be available? https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. Sadly, shortly after, she meets someone she fears and call the police. Certainly this could have been due solely to incompetence alone, but they ignored performing relatively simple investigation tasks more than once. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. or I am very familiar with the Koude Kas posts. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. Bizarre! Had someone told them about something worth seeing? I think this was a setup for the 2 girls from the beginning. Keep the ideas flowing guys. No dog. It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. Possibly ambushed and didnt have time? I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). What kind of twisted f*ck stick makes this kind of comment? So without doubt, someone tampered with the photos to some degree. Perhaps the photos served astrail markersto help the young women find their way around or back to therescuers. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. Yes! Each year, around 30,000 people are reported missing in Australiaone person every 18 minutes. Wow. Yes, thank you, Sue. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. The backpack and all the contents are so confusing. Do you or anyone else that you know of have any idea where in Panama this photo was taken? Sorry to bring up the dog again. Why? I think Kris was about to have a quick look in a man-made structure she had stumbled across just to explore. They got lost and they died of starvation and a hard ration, except for Chriss. , I could be wrong but scanning through the comments didnt see some of these things being discussed, & thought Id put my 2 sense in! There just seems to be something wrong about this photo, and I dont like her expression. In reality, I dont think someone would go to this extent. The last half either had a wrong password, or simply no password at all was entered. Lisanne believes her dead. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. Im not sure if people can really talk with animals but i sure would try and see by calling on a few and get their opinion. You have to look hard. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. Shes describing the things youve noticed on the pic!!!! Wonder if it could be a piece of an aircraft wreckage. Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. Be careful. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Why would that be? "Tourism contributes 10% to EU GDP and creates jobs for 26 million people," notes the European Union Tourism Trends report. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. I have no doubt that the camera was tampered with. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. Blue, a dog known throughout the community, reportedly followed them along the trail. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. Ive seen the chronological order of the photos posted by Scarlet and some of the strikes me as being askew. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. Thanks for your comment. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? However, any link that requires any form of downloads, account creation or spammy activity, to view linked content, will not be permitted. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. Perhaps it was created by locals in the region. This trip to Panama was a major life experience for Kris and Lisanne. Take care. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. But then Im immediately confronted with conflicting evidence to suggest otherwise. Was it taken on the afternoon of April 1st before their first distress call? Does anyone agree with me? She cant be shielding her eyes from the sun, as no shadow is falling over her eyes. Right hand is on her hip/slightly behind back, the left is hanging down on her side or in her pocket I cant tell. Search shoe with foot in it found. Maybe you can find more answers about this horrible story. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. What I find most concerning is her face. After cops searched the area where the backpack was found, they discovered Kris' clothes neatly folded along the edge of the river. Clearly the trash on the rocks indicates it had active people. The green rock directly in front of Kris appears to float in space. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families.
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